Discussion in 'Henshin Justice Unlimited' started by Xtreme RX, Feb 8, 2014.
*Shoves you up against a wall* Listen to me! That time didn't count! This time counts!
Maybe we will get the answers in the inevitable directors cut. :thumbs:
This is just all I thought when I watched the finale lol
First of all, I have to say that I've been enjoying Kyoryuger quite a lot up to the finale. However, there were several things in the final episode that ruined the ending for me:
-Daigo & Amy: I have no problem with romance in Super Sentai, and I don't have a problem having this two characters together. But they can't just shoehorn it in the last 2-3 eps and expect us to accept it, especially after having Yayoi being infatuated with Daigo since her introduction but did not seemed to mind in the end when Daigo hooked up with Amy. And does it really matter to the story at all?
-Daigo as One Man Army: Throughout the series, it is clear that Daigo is the central figure of Kyoryuger, and it is particularly jarring when he turned out to be the only one who received the power-up in the team. But to let him go mano-e-mano vs Deboss is ridiculous. The last time I checked, this isn't Kamen Rider, so why can't the team face Deboss together?
-Deus Ex Machina: I know in just about every final episode, the heroes will pull something out of their butt to defeat the enemy, but having the Kyoryuger just sing a melody to weaken both Chaos and Deboss and helped heroes win with ease is bad storytelling. I know they wanted to rush to Epilogue but that doesn't excuse the way they did it.
-Epilogue: I don't understand why we have to suffer through the long Epilogue to find out that Daigo is indeed alive, when we can predict that he'll survive from the beginning. And to have Amy going from a strong, independent young lady to one who was sobbing for her new boyfriend's apparent demise was rather disappointing. It also have no reason to have taken half of the episode to do the reunion, either.
I didn't even mention how they killed off Ucchi then letting him come back via melody. Anyway, it was a badly-handled finale and one that I won't feel like rewatching in the future.
I enjoyed the finale; however, while I don't mind DaiAmi, it felt forced at the end especially since there were only 3-4 hints at it and they brushed it off.
It's another thing Sanjou stole from a past Sentai -- the way Gorou/Spade Ace and Karen/Heart Queen realized, all of a sudden, in the finale, that they were in love.
Just because it was from a past sentai doesn't mean it's good.
That I said it was "all of a sudden, in the freakin' finale" should have indicated that I thought it was crap in JAKQ, too.
But I still wanted to get a slam in at how much I think Riku Sanjou sucks for acting like he's some kind of amazing genius for writing all of Kyoryuger, when...well, how hard could it have been with all of the recycling he did?
I doubt Sanjo has WATCHED JAKQ ... and let's face it, Daigo and Amy aren't "in love", it's childish infatuation.
On a rewatch with subtitles, it gets me how Daigo basically says, "I'm not going anywhere, we're a Sentai, nakama 4 lyfe, if we die we die together ... BTW, Amy, the sole reason I came back to earth was because I wuv you and wanna go on that date, fuck these other guys"
I'm very pleased by how Kyoryuger turned out. There was something truly special about the mood, plot, characters, even ones i thought i wouldn't like, like Ian and Souji, showed growth through the year making me grow to like them. Similarly, its musical motif grew stronger through the year and ended on a high note. Pun intended!
I'm gonna miss it a lot, but i hope ToQGer manages to fill those shoes.
I'm glad I'm not the only one to point that out. For me it's not so much that stuff got recycled more than it that was just "Hey, remember when this other Sentai did it?" without doing much else. Too much developing will take time away from wacky hijinks, after all.
- I just realized that the Frozen Castle interior is meant to resemble the inside a bodyâ€™s interior. But it still is too candy-like. Maybe if the walls were redder and less pink.
- My thoughts exactly, Dantetsu. Chaos isnâ€™t dead.
- So the new Cyan and Grey are sent to take care of the grunts. How spectacular.
- Destroying the base feels so much like a Power Rangers tropeâ€¦
- A lot of quick deaths in this episode.
- Others have expounded on the sudden Daigo-Amy thing, so I have nothing more to say on that.
- Deboss has a creator? Why is this only now being mentioned? And I thought he was a Bazoo-type villain.
- Sing-a-long to defeat the enemy (especially when itâ€™s just to the tune of a very sing-a-longy theme song and not something more â€œmysticâ€ or â€œancientâ€) seems tooâ€¦ â€œCare Bear-ishâ€. Everyone apparently hates Tetomâ€™s song from Gaoranger, but that was much better than this.
- I like Utchy in meditation. We should have seen more of stuff like that. Instead he became just another clown most of the time.
- Whyâ€™d it take so long for the Zyudenryu and Daigo to return? What was the point of drawing that out when it amounted to nothing?
Do you know how hard it is for a dinosaur to walk in space? It's fucking hard!
I doubt they expected anyone to remember it. Unless someone in the audience is a Nobuo Akagi or was watching Gaoranger or JAKQ or whatever else as they were growing up, they're not going to remember it. The target audience will not know it at all. Why NOT use it? Shows that have gone on for far fewer than 38 seasons have reused stuff without being terribly creative with it.
^ Well then it goes right back to how quickly plot points would get resolved or put on the backburner so we could go back to the oh-so-funny hijinks. That was my issue more than the fact that stuff got recycled. Of course that's bound to happen.
Plezuon flies through space regularly. And they didn't even fly very far away; they were right above Earth.
Exactly. These were clearly meant as homages with a new audience in mind.
Of course, Black Fang's issue of plot's being resolved too quickly is a valid (though relative) one, too.
Of all the stupid in the finale, this pissed me off the most.
It feels late to ask this, but does anyone know what Aigallion says in Japanese when he says "It'll make you shed tears". What is the exact phrase written in Japanese or Romaji?
I guess the reason is that they used literally all their power to destroy the Frozen Castle, so they have to "hibernate" for a while until they have enough power to fly back to earth.
But the staff really should have put that in Daigo's dialogue....
So, I just finished watching the final four episodes. As a finale, I am very mixed on it. The fact that it is revealed in this episode that Deboss has a creator is the biggest "Wait. What?" moment.
Only reason I could see to have that in there is to make Deboss a parallel to Cthulhu, who is also a planet destroying entity that has something worse above his level.
I kind of love that the theme song is Earth's Melody. Really didn't care for how the final battle was just between Daigo and Deboss, but at least the others used Earth's Melody to help, even if it was superficial.
As a whole, I really enjoyed Kyroryuger. I still feel that the show didn't really find it's focus until after Deboss was revived the first time, but I did enjoy it.
Also, I really hope Riku Sanjou consulted a proctologist before he pulled the Daigo and Amy pairing out of his ass, like that.
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